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The title 'Shia' is present in the Qur'an and the hadeeth and Hardhat Ibraheem (as) has also been named a Shia. Do you accept this?
If you do accept this, then what you do mean by 'Millat e Ibraheem' in your sect? And if you don't accept this then please give us a reason as to why the word Shi'a has been used with reference to Prophet Ibraheem (as)?
(2)
Does opposition to the title 'Shia' not constitute opposition to the Qur'an and the sayings of the holy prophet (s) when this title has been related to Ali (as), Fatima (as) and the Ahlul Bayt (as)?
Al saffat:83
[37:83—Al Saffat:83] And most surely Ibrahim followed his way.
As said in verse 83 those who follow the same creed are called shi-ahs, and this has become a term to distinguish those who follow Ali.
The Holy Prophet said:
"O Ali, you and your shi-ahs, on the day of resurrection, will be surrounded by light, honoured and successful."
وَدَخَلَ الْمَدِينَةَ عَلَى حِينِ غَفْلَةٍ مِّنْ أَهْلِهَا فَوَجَدَ فِيهَا رَجُلَيْنِ يَقْتَتِلَانِ هَذَا مِن شِيعَتِهِ وَهَذَا مِنْ عَدُوِّهِ فَاسْتَغَاثَهُ الَّذِيمِن شِيعَتِهِ عَلَى الَّذِي مِنْ عَدُوِّهِ فَوَكَزَهُ
مُوسَى فَقَضَى عَلَيْهِ قَالَ هَذَا مِنْ عَمَلِ الشَّيْطَانِ إِنَّهُ عَدُوٌّ مُّضِلٌّ مُّبِينٌ Al qasas:15
[28:15—AlQasas:15] And he went into the city at a time of unvigilance on the part of its people, so he found therein two men fighting, one being of his party and the other of his foes, and he who was of his party cried out to him for help against him who was of his enemies, so Musa struck him with his fist and killed him. He said: This is on account of the Shaitan's doing; surely he is an enemy, openly leading astray.
Allah swt again uses the term Shia for Prophet Musa’s followers against Prophet Musa’s enemies
You can see for yourself , that the Quran calls Prophet Musa’s group the Shia of Musa and the other group, enemy of Prophet Musa . The Quran further states that the people during that incident were either the Shia or the enemy of Prophet Musa . The term Shia is therefore an honorary title given by Allah, in the Quran, to his high ranking prophets aswell as their followers.
One of the greatest Sunni Scholar, namely Firuzabadi, in his Qamusu'l-Lughat, says: "The name Shia commonly means every person who is a friend of Ali and his Ahlul Bait. This name is peculiar to them."
Exactly the same meaning is given by Ibn Athir in Nihayatu'l-Lughat. According to Sunni scholars own commentaries, the word Shia means follower of Ali Bin Abu Talib and was used in this way during the time of the Prophet.
The first individual who used this term was the Holy Prophet himself: "Glad tiding O Ali! Verily you and your companions and your Shia will be in Paradise."
Sunni sources:
1. Fadha'il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v2, p655
2. Hilyatul Awliyaa, by Abu Nu'aym, v4, p329
3. Tarikh, by al-Khateeb al-Baghdadi, v12, p289
4. al-Awsat, by al-Tabarani
5. Majma' al-Zawa'id, by al-Haythami, v10, pp 21-22
6. al-Darqunti, who said this tradition has been transmitted via numerous authorities.
7. al-Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar Haythami , Ch. 11, section 1, p247
"As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects (Shiites), you have no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did." (6:159)
According to Imam Muhammad bin Ali al Baqir this verse is in continuation of verse 154. Those who abandoned the path shown by the Holy Prophet through hadith al thaqalayn and his final announcement at Ghadir Khum, in fact sowed the seeds of discord and sectarianism in Islam, otherwise the directions given by the Holy Prophet, as commanded by Allah, were clear. "My Ahl ul Bayt are like the ark of Nuh. Whoso gets into it is saved, and whoso stays away is drowned and lost" said the Holy Prophet. The Holy Prophet also said: "Out of the seventy-one sects of the followers of Musa, only one was on the right path. The followers of Isa also divided their religion into seventy two sects, out of which only one was on the right path. Likewise there will be seventy three sects among my followers, out of which only one will be on the right path."
The followers of true Islam hold fast to the Quran and the Imams of the Ahl ul Bayt as had been directed by the Holy Prophet.
"Say: "He has power to send calamities on you, from above and below, or to cover you with confusion in party strife (make you Shiites), giving you a taste of mutual vengeance - each from the other." See how We explain the Signs by various (symbols); that they may understand." (6:65)
"Turn you in repentance to Him, and fear Him: establish regular prayers, and be not you among those who join gods with Allah, those who splite up their religion, and become (mere) Sects (Shiites), each party rejoicing in that which is with itself!" (30:31-32)
"Then shall We certainly drag out from every sect (Shiites) all those who were worst in obstinate rebellion against (Allah) Most Gracious." (Qur'an Mariam:69)
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"Truly Pharaoh elated himself in the land and broke up its people into sections (Shiites), depressing a small group among them: their sons he slew, but he kept alive their females: for he was indeed a maker of mischief." (28:4)
As far as Pharaoh is concerned, he proclaimed himself to be god. He divided his people into groups and parties so that he will be able to rule them easily. Each group is called Shi'ah.
Hafiz Abu Nu'aim Ispahani is one of the most distinguished Sunni narrators of hadith. Ibn Khallikan has praised him in his Wafayatu'l-A'ayan' as one of the great Huffaz (men of wisdom), and one of the most learned narrators of hadith. He also states that the ten volumes of his Hilyatu'l-Auliya are among the most instructive of books. Salahu'd-din Khalil bin Aibak Safdi writes in his Wafiy bi'l-Wafiyat about him, "The crown of narrators of hadith, Hafiz Abu Nu'aim, was the foremost in knowledge, piety, and honesty. He enjoyed a high position in the narration and understanding of hadith. His best work is Hilyatu'l-Auliya in 10 volumes, consisting of derivations from the two Sahis." Muhammad bin Abdullah al-Khatib praises him in Rijali'l-Mishkati'l-Masabih, saying that he is among the leading narrators of hadith whose narrations are utterly reliable.
In short, this respected scholar and traditionist, the pride of Sunni scholars, relates from Abdullah bin Abbas through his own chain of narrators in his book Hilyatu'l-Auliya relates: "When the following verse of the holy Qur'an was revealed: '(As for) those who believe and do good, surely they are the best of men. Their reward with their Lord is gardens of perpetuity beneath which rivers flow, abiding therein forever. Allah is well pleased with them and they are well pleased with Him; that is for him who fears his Lord.' (98:7-8), the Holy Prophet, addressing Ali, said: 'O Ali, the best of creatures (Khairu'l-bariyya) in this holy verse refers to you and your followers (Shia). On the Day of Resurrection, you and your Shia shall attain such a position that Allah will be pleased with you, and you will be pleased with Him.'"
Also, Mir Seyyed Ali Hamadani Shafii, one of the eminent Sunni scholars, in his Mawaddatu'l-Qurba, and the well known anti-Shia scholar, Ibn Hajar, in his Sawa'iq-e Muhriqa narrate from Ummu'l-Mu'minin Umme Salma, the wife of the Prophet, that the Holy Prophet said: "O Ali, you and your Shias will abide in Paradise; you and your Shias will abide in Paradise."
Now since the Holy Prophet himself said it, we know it was Allah who said it. This is due to the following Quranic verse: "Nor does he speak out of desire. It is naught but revelation that is revealed." (53:3-4)
I can provide more Sunni sources and write several pages on this, but I believe that this is enough for now. I therefore ask you kindly to provide evidence that the term Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah, used for those on the right path and following the true guide/Imam, is a term chosen by Allah.
The term Shia (which means follower) can be found in the Holy Quran, and this term has been given to the followers of Ahl Ul Bait by Allah swt. (More on that in abit)
The Holy Prophet has said the following:
"My ummah will be divided into seventy three sects. All of them will be in the Fire except one." (Abu Dawud vol.3 no.4579-4580 p.1290-1291; Ibn-i-Majah vol.5 book 36 ch.17 no.3992 p.312)
YA ALI MADAD!!!
If you do accept this, then what you do mean by 'Millat e Ibraheem' in your sect? And if you don't accept this then please give us a reason as to why the word Shi'a has been used with reference to Prophet Ibraheem (as)?
(2)
Does opposition to the title 'Shia' not constitute opposition to the Qur'an and the sayings of the holy prophet (s) when this title has been related to Ali (as), Fatima (as) and the Ahlul Bayt (as)?
Al saffat:83
[37:83—Al Saffat:83] And most surely Ibrahim followed his way.
As said in verse 83 those who follow the same creed are called shi-ahs, and this has become a term to distinguish those who follow Ali.
The Holy Prophet said:
"O Ali, you and your shi-ahs, on the day of resurrection, will be surrounded by light, honoured and successful."
وَدَخَلَ الْمَدِينَةَ عَلَى حِينِ غَفْلَةٍ مِّنْ أَهْلِهَا فَوَجَدَ فِيهَا رَجُلَيْنِ يَقْتَتِلَانِ هَذَا مِن شِيعَتِهِ وَهَذَا مِنْ عَدُوِّهِ فَاسْتَغَاثَهُ الَّذِيمِن شِيعَتِهِ عَلَى الَّذِي مِنْ عَدُوِّهِ فَوَكَزَهُ
مُوسَى فَقَضَى عَلَيْهِ قَالَ هَذَا مِنْ عَمَلِ الشَّيْطَانِ إِنَّهُ عَدُوٌّ مُّضِلٌّ مُّبِينٌ Al qasas:15
[28:15—AlQasas:15] And he went into the city at a time of unvigilance on the part of its people, so he found therein two men fighting, one being of his party and the other of his foes, and he who was of his party cried out to him for help against him who was of his enemies, so Musa struck him with his fist and killed him. He said: This is on account of the Shaitan's doing; surely he is an enemy, openly leading astray.
Allah swt again uses the term Shia for Prophet Musa’s followers against Prophet Musa’s enemies
You can see for yourself , that the Quran calls Prophet Musa’s group the Shia of Musa and the other group, enemy of Prophet Musa . The Quran further states that the people during that incident were either the Shia or the enemy of Prophet Musa . The term Shia is therefore an honorary title given by Allah, in the Quran, to his high ranking prophets aswell as their followers.
One of the greatest Sunni Scholar, namely Firuzabadi, in his Qamusu'l-Lughat, says: "The name Shia commonly means every person who is a friend of Ali and his Ahlul Bait. This name is peculiar to them."
Exactly the same meaning is given by Ibn Athir in Nihayatu'l-Lughat. According to Sunni scholars own commentaries, the word Shia means follower of Ali Bin Abu Talib and was used in this way during the time of the Prophet.
The first individual who used this term was the Holy Prophet himself: "Glad tiding O Ali! Verily you and your companions and your Shia will be in Paradise."
Sunni sources:
1. Fadha'il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v2, p655
2. Hilyatul Awliyaa, by Abu Nu'aym, v4, p329
3. Tarikh, by al-Khateeb al-Baghdadi, v12, p289
4. al-Awsat, by al-Tabarani
5. Majma' al-Zawa'id, by al-Haythami, v10, pp 21-22
6. al-Darqunti, who said this tradition has been transmitted via numerous authorities.
7. al-Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar Haythami , Ch. 11, section 1, p247
"As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects (Shiites), you have no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did." (6:159)
According to Imam Muhammad bin Ali al Baqir this verse is in continuation of verse 154. Those who abandoned the path shown by the Holy Prophet through hadith al thaqalayn and his final announcement at Ghadir Khum, in fact sowed the seeds of discord and sectarianism in Islam, otherwise the directions given by the Holy Prophet, as commanded by Allah, were clear. "My Ahl ul Bayt are like the ark of Nuh. Whoso gets into it is saved, and whoso stays away is drowned and lost" said the Holy Prophet. The Holy Prophet also said: "Out of the seventy-one sects of the followers of Musa, only one was on the right path. The followers of Isa also divided their religion into seventy two sects, out of which only one was on the right path. Likewise there will be seventy three sects among my followers, out of which only one will be on the right path."
The followers of true Islam hold fast to the Quran and the Imams of the Ahl ul Bayt as had been directed by the Holy Prophet.
"Say: "He has power to send calamities on you, from above and below, or to cover you with confusion in party strife (make you Shiites), giving you a taste of mutual vengeance - each from the other." See how We explain the Signs by various (symbols); that they may understand." (6:65)
"Turn you in repentance to Him, and fear Him: establish regular prayers, and be not you among those who join gods with Allah, those who splite up their religion, and become (mere) Sects (Shiites), each party rejoicing in that which is with itself!" (30:31-32)
"Then shall We certainly drag out from every sect (Shiites) all those who were worst in obstinate rebellion against (Allah) Most Gracious." (Qur'an Mariam:69)
.
"Truly Pharaoh elated himself in the land and broke up its people into sections (Shiites), depressing a small group among them: their sons he slew, but he kept alive their females: for he was indeed a maker of mischief." (28:4)
As far as Pharaoh is concerned, he proclaimed himself to be god. He divided his people into groups and parties so that he will be able to rule them easily. Each group is called Shi'ah.
Hafiz Abu Nu'aim Ispahani is one of the most distinguished Sunni narrators of hadith. Ibn Khallikan has praised him in his Wafayatu'l-A'ayan' as one of the great Huffaz (men of wisdom), and one of the most learned narrators of hadith. He also states that the ten volumes of his Hilyatu'l-Auliya are among the most instructive of books. Salahu'd-din Khalil bin Aibak Safdi writes in his Wafiy bi'l-Wafiyat about him, "The crown of narrators of hadith, Hafiz Abu Nu'aim, was the foremost in knowledge, piety, and honesty. He enjoyed a high position in the narration and understanding of hadith. His best work is Hilyatu'l-Auliya in 10 volumes, consisting of derivations from the two Sahis." Muhammad bin Abdullah al-Khatib praises him in Rijali'l-Mishkati'l-Masabih, saying that he is among the leading narrators of hadith whose narrations are utterly reliable.
In short, this respected scholar and traditionist, the pride of Sunni scholars, relates from Abdullah bin Abbas through his own chain of narrators in his book Hilyatu'l-Auliya relates: "When the following verse of the holy Qur'an was revealed: '(As for) those who believe and do good, surely they are the best of men. Their reward with their Lord is gardens of perpetuity beneath which rivers flow, abiding therein forever. Allah is well pleased with them and they are well pleased with Him; that is for him who fears his Lord.' (98:7-8), the Holy Prophet, addressing Ali, said: 'O Ali, the best of creatures (Khairu'l-bariyya) in this holy verse refers to you and your followers (Shia). On the Day of Resurrection, you and your Shia shall attain such a position that Allah will be pleased with you, and you will be pleased with Him.'"
Also, Mir Seyyed Ali Hamadani Shafii, one of the eminent Sunni scholars, in his Mawaddatu'l-Qurba, and the well known anti-Shia scholar, Ibn Hajar, in his Sawa'iq-e Muhriqa narrate from Ummu'l-Mu'minin Umme Salma, the wife of the Prophet, that the Holy Prophet said: "O Ali, you and your Shias will abide in Paradise; you and your Shias will abide in Paradise."
Now since the Holy Prophet himself said it, we know it was Allah who said it. This is due to the following Quranic verse: "Nor does he speak out of desire. It is naught but revelation that is revealed." (53:3-4)
I can provide more Sunni sources and write several pages on this, but I believe that this is enough for now. I therefore ask you kindly to provide evidence that the term Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah, used for those on the right path and following the true guide/Imam, is a term chosen by Allah.
The term Shia (which means follower) can be found in the Holy Quran, and this term has been given to the followers of Ahl Ul Bait by Allah swt. (More on that in abit)
The Holy Prophet has said the following:
"My ummah will be divided into seventy three sects. All of them will be in the Fire except one." (Abu Dawud vol.3 no.4579-4580 p.1290-1291; Ibn-i-Majah vol.5 book 36 ch.17 no.3992 p.312)
YA ALI MADAD!!!